WTH?
Ok it must be something about me that makes troubles in whatever country I go to. Explosions in Jordan? It’s the first time. Jordan has been, till two days ago, the only explosions-free country in the region. Take a look at the map and you will see that every country around Jordan is a tension center itself. Three explosions happened, in three fancy hotels at the same time, killing 52 in some versions and 68 in other versions, and injuring over 200. The Jordanian government refuses to announce the names of the killed people, and I will tell you my dear friends why is that. The truth is that the three explosions weren’t attacks against civilians, (well rich civilians I have to say) but were actually planned assassinations against top officials. It’s believed that there was a top-secret meeting between Palestinian and Israeli officials, with the presence of American officials maybe, and some Jordanian personalities, and also an Iraqi delegation participating in it. All haven’t been confirmed yet.The government announced the names of about 30 killed people only. Abbas, the head of the Palestinian authority, announced the death of the head of the Palestinian intelligence agency in one of the explosions, and announced official three days of morning mourning. This was the first sign that something fishy was going on there. And then today, Palestinian sides today, announced that "The Palestinian cause is a just cause and doesn't need this kind of support to win”!!! “This kind of support?” note: they are not being sarcastic. So they must have meant that they don't want people making explosions to kill Israelis like that. The US government, the UN, the whole world all burst of rage and condemned the explosions strongly. none of the above said anything about the hundreds of civilians that have been getting killed for the last couple of weeks in the American operation in the west of Iraq, but now the whole world is condemning killing civilians here in Jordan, hmmm. I am sure there is something fishy. Who is it that was killed there, that made all those dudes in the American administration and the UN so angry? Who are the "foreigners" that the Jordanian government wouldn’t announce their names? I have no idea! I managed to get inside one of the hotels and got actually into the explosion site, i its really big, I can say the destroyed area is about 50*50 meters or more, everything within that area is destroyed, parts of the sides, furniture and sealing, including the false sealing and the air conditioning pipes above it, and if I am not wrong, two walls, one of them is the front of the hotel, the farthest point to the explosion. Now an explosive belt doesn't do that kind of mess, believe me. Something fishy is going on. I am telling you! Yesterday Al Jazeera said Israelis were evacuated from the hotels (or one of the) before the explosions, the thing that the Jordanian government declined today.
yesterday I was interviewing people in the street to see the feelings ok Iraqis living in Jordan about the explosions, and all the ones that were asked said that the good relation between the Jordanian and Iraqi pro-American government might be a reason why Jordan was attacked.
Still waiting for more bits of information to gather the story.
I and my family are fine, thanks for all your emails.
My deep condolences to the families of those who were killed, i was there in the gathering that included people and moslim religion men and a priest, in front one of the hotels after the attack in support of the victims of the attack.
killing any civilian, any innocent person is always condemned, all i am trying to say that there was certain people gathering at that day in these hotels that were targeted.
possibly discussing somethign about iraq, maybe it was an iraqi-isreali-american conference...i am just saying maybe, because if the goal of explosions is to kill civillians then the best place to go would be mecca mall for example, or Abdon mall, or any of the big malls in amman that has thousands of people in them with no security measurments at all, that would be a much easier and more efficiant attack if the goal was to kill civillians only.
still, as i said, we dont have the real story till now, lets wait a bit and see. we dont have facts, i reported what i saw and what people think and what i think, since i am in Amman.
Khalid*
yesterday I was interviewing people in the street to see the feelings ok Iraqis living in Jordan about the explosions, and all the ones that were asked said that the good relation between the Jordanian and Iraqi pro-American government might be a reason why Jordan was attacked.
Still waiting for more bits of information to gather the story.
I and my family are fine, thanks for all your emails.
My deep condolences to the families of those who were killed, i was there in the gathering that included people and moslim religion men and a priest, in front one of the hotels after the attack in support of the victims of the attack.
killing any civilian, any innocent person is always condemned, all i am trying to say that there was certain people gathering at that day in these hotels that were targeted.
possibly discussing somethign about iraq, maybe it was an iraqi-isreali-american conference...i am just saying maybe, because if the goal of explosions is to kill civillians then the best place to go would be mecca mall for example, or Abdon mall, or any of the big malls in amman that has thousands of people in them with no security measurments at all, that would be a much easier and more efficiant attack if the goal was to kill civillians only.
still, as i said, we dont have the real story till now, lets wait a bit and see. we dont have facts, i reported what i saw and what people think and what i think, since i am in Amman.
Khalid*
33 Comments:
I have been thinking the exact same thing. The world's reaction to this has been hilarious. Al-Qaeda must have sturck gold this time (pun intended)
According to the BBC, two Bahrainis have been identified amongst the dead in Amman, Jordan.
Fuck you Zarqawi and the wahabi pigs who support you, do your worst, we're not afraid.
My deep condolences to the families and friends of all the deceased and injured in this atrocity.
Glad to hear your okay. There is a real ability of intelligence agencies to bomb and plot in this environment. It has never been easier to blame an attack on al-queda in order to carry ou your goals. My first thought after these explosions was will they try to point to a Syrian connection? Putting more pressure on Assad and creating a rift with Jordan. The Middle East clearly just got a little more dangerous. If that's possible?
"The Jordanian government refuses to announce the names of the killed people, and I will tell you my dear friends why is that ... The government announced the names of about 30 killed people only"
maybe it is because the other bodies are in many pieces and it will take some time to figure out who they were.
...and it's standard procedure not to announce the names of the murdered until their families have first been notified.
That is the most naieve and dumbest post i have seen you post yet.
dont feel pressured to post a "sensational" story; speculation and fiction.
Dear Cmarii:
"monsters who have been attacking Iraqi police, civil servants, mosques, and public utilities. Care to clarify? "
well i think regarding this point, most of the readers got where i stand from this issue the first time i posted about that, God knows when, some of the readers got it after i talked (many times) about my opinion about kiling civillians on one hand and attacking police and national guard and the occupation troops on the other hand and the deference between them, since you are from
the third kind of readrs that will take few other years of me repeating it to get it, i guess i will just take a rain check this time, what defferent would it make if i answered you? you will still ask the same question next post:)
My deep condolences to the families of those who were killed, i was there in the gathering that included people and moslim religion men and a priest, in front one of the hotels.
killing any civilian, any innocent person is always condemned, all i am trying to say that there was certain people gathering at that day in these hotels that were targeted.
possibly discussing somethign about iraq, maybe it was an iraqi-isreali-american conference...i am just saying maybe, because if the goal of explosions is to kill civillians then the best place to go would be mecca mall for example, or Abdon mall, or any of the big malls in amman that has thousands of people in them with no security measurments at all, that would be a much easier and more efficiant attack if the goal was to kill civillians only.
still, as i said, we dont have the real story till now, lets wait a bit and see. we dont have facts, i reported what i saw and what people think and what i think, since i am in Amman.
:)
Poor salam, his father was in the government of Saddam chearing for Saddam, and now in the Iraqi government chearing for the Americans, those people are color-less, they take the best color to survive everyday.
anyways, at least you get from his post that Jordanians and egyptians do understand the reason behind the resistance, while he can't, i share his frostration about jordanians loving Saddam, grr..thats annoying but its because they only listened to his speeches and didnt live in Iraq during his time so they think that he does what he says. and regarding the issue of the Jordanian that bombed himself among iraqis and the Jordanian newspaper calling him a hero, well i dont knwo if salam knows about this -well i hope not, otherwise he would be a fatter liar-, that the newspaper thought that the jordanian bombed himself among Americans troops and killed 143 or so, i read that newspaper myself calling the guy a hero for killing 143 American-occupation troops, not because he killed Iraqis, and i posted about it back when it happened, till now no one knows if the jordanian guy was the one responsible for the Hilla explosion or not, but its irrilevant since the celebration of Jordanians were at the time when they all believed that those who were killed were American occupying soldiers and not Iraqis, and this is the point.
Salam is trying to tell the world exactly what the American adminstration is saying, which is that Terrorists are brain-less crazy men that just wake up one day feeling like bombing themselves and killing others, and you can think that and it makes your life easier, but the truth is that till you try to understand the reason behind all that huge ammount of anger and frostration and helplessness and lack of other sollutions that leads them to do that, till you try to understand that and try to deal with it to solve it, you wont be helping at all in stopping them. and you will understand that it's true that they push button of the explosion, but we all, (and speacially the governments of many countries in the world that helped boiling that anger), helped in building it.
think about this one!
khalid*
Again, exactly my thoughts on the matter.
This is what I dont understand too. When 50 people are killed in London, when 50 are killed in Jordan, the whole world including Muslim Leaders get together to condemn it, but when countless Iraqi's and Palestinians are killed, no one says a word. Why? Do Iraqi lives mean nothing?
I mean its all wrong. Its wrong no matter where it happens, but what really makes me angry is seeing how the world gets together and cries about a handful of people dead, but dont say a word when thousands are killed.
The Kuffar have a habit of flaring up anything done by the Muslims. I've seen alot of it. That is why it is ok for american and british soldiers to kill as many civillians as they want. Its ok for them to toture and humiliate the prisoners at Abu Ghuraib and else where, but when muslims do it, its a big deal. What mought do they have to say anyhting, when their very own hands are covered with blood of countless lives?
Khalid, glad to know you and your family are all safe and well.
May Allah pritect ya'll and keep you safe. Aameen
Yas
Something fishy is going on in your brain, Khalid. Sad to know that people like you are safe and well. Shame you were not invited to the wedding.
Condolences to Jordan.
Elie
false exusations jeffery, your post was deleted.
funny to know that your life has nothign more important to know fill it with but waiting for me say somethign about salam:)
i am happy though to know that i fill that much of your thought and brain.
i never mentioned that he was gay did i? :) i have a problem with his political stand, not with his sexual interests, which you seem to focus on for some reason. why is that jeffery? :)
thats commenting on this part of what you said:
"And thanks for the blunt comments on Salam Pax. I've been waiting two years for that"
sorry, i meant:
"And thanks for the blunt comments on Salam Pax. I've been waiting two years for that.
Hey, he's gay, so a "pro-God" (..........) like yourself would eventually urge (..........), right?"
Khalid, I've been waiting for this post. Thank you! I'm happy to hear that you and your family are safe. I hope there will not be a backlash against Iraqis in exile in Jordan. Hopefully, level heads will prevail and everyone will cool down until all the facts come out, and they will.
I don't know who this "Jeffrey" is but he is either uneducated or simply an idiot. I don't allow "anonymous" comments on "our" blog, because I think if people can't openly accept responsibility for what they post, they shouldn't be allowed, and I refuse to waste my time on them.
I will post about the 11/9, or 9/11 (in Arabic) bombings tomorrow.
Stay safe, and God bless!
"Yesterday Al Jazeera said Israelis were evacuated from the hotels (or one of the) before the explosions, the thing that the Jordanian government declined today."
My GOD! Just like 9-11 when all those jews stay home from work! Wow, I had not made the connection but your post has made it all so clear.
Due to insisting on making false accusations about me, repetetavie trolling, a million other reason, and maybe just because i simply dont like him, jeffery is banned from this blog, from now on.
i think dectatorship is fun:) now i can see why saddam worked so hard to stay in power:D
mean khalid*
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Khalid,
One more thing, regarding this comment of yours:
well i dont knwo if salam knows about this -well i hope not, otherwise he would be a fatter liar
You haven't shown a single way in which Salam Pax has lied. Even if he known that that Jordanian newspaper had its head up its butt it would not be a lie to report what it said.
On the other hand, you stood spouting your "democratic rights" before a judge who you believe could be righteously murdered by an insurgent. So who is the real liar here??
One government official in Egypt, citing multiple military defeats, spoke of a deep-seated feeling of inferiority, even a kind of mental illness. The official also blamed Arab leaders who have deflected criticism of domestic issues by focusing public anger on Israel.
Whatever the cause, the result is the same: "In the first place, people don't even recognize the reality around them," said Muhammad el-Sayed Said, a political analyst at the government-financed Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Egypt. "Secondly, they continue to overlook and ignore the problem without supporting a consistent anti-terrorism campaign, which the government might be seeking."
Dawoud al-Shoryan, a prominent writer and journalist from Saudi Arabia, says he is not convinced that those who blame Israel really believe it. But, he added, many people are deeply angry at United States policy in the region, including its occupation of Iraq, and blaming Israel is a way of conferring some degree of legitimacy on a crime that would be considered unspeakable if committed by a Muslim.
"They try to hide the hideous face of terrorism by hanging it on the United States and Israel," he said. "Shifting the accusation is nothing but a subconscious attempt to justify the act."
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Jeffrey is banned? Woohoo :-)
i think dectatorship is fun:) now i can see why saddam worked so hard to stay in power:D
mean khalid*
Lol, I just had a big Laugh reading that! :D
Yas
khalid jarrar,
you are a legend in your own mind
Good riddance.. no more Jeffery-rat.
Dear Cmar, you are about to face sentense of banning too, watch ( and wash) that mouth.
you had some good point in the comments you posted, i deleted them all except one because they all had either bad language or false accusations to me.
:)
Jeff and any other guys that might be banned in the future:
all you need to do is to send a post apologizing to everone for your trolling and bad language, and promissing to be nice and plite, and you will be back in the track in no time, maybe! ( i added the "maybe" so you can know that i am so drunk with dictatorship power right now )
as for salam: he would be a liar cause he used the rumor about the newspaper to say that Jordanians love to see Iraqis being killed, and that is an unbelievably terrible lie, what does he want, an arab-arab general civil war? that wasnt only a lie, its an unresponsible one too, specially that after the rumors came out that the Jordanians guy's parents and Jordanians celebrated the death of Iraqis (not American soldiers), his father came out on at least one setelite channel and cleared everything the way i did before, and then a lot of the arab media put the light on this issue to prove to everyone that no one ever celebrated or would celebrate the death of Iraqi civillians, in that sense, and by not telling the rest of the story, he is a liar ( or maybe just mistaken, lets assume that he just was sleeping for long enough -few days- to miss all the thigns that were in the media everywhere after the rumors spreaded ).
as for the judge, when i said these thignsto him i was being sarcastic, totally, like: ( isnt this the crap you tell us all the time since the war? how come i am in prison for surfing the net then? ).
i dont support killing judges or any civilian or any person that helps building the country positively. but i cleared that already haven't i? :) it's getting funny, maybe i should copy paste this part at the end of every post:) with a note "for Cmarii"
Khalid*
Kahlid,
The United States and other coalition forces remain in Iraq at the invitation of the freely elected Iraqi government. If the measurement of governmental legitimacy is freely cast votes, then the current Iraqi government is the most legitimate government that Iraq has ever had.
On October 27 2005, this governmet wrote a letter to the UN Security Council extend the mandate for forces to remain in Iraq. The UN Security Council also stated that these forces must leave if asked.
Theferore, you are wrong in your thoughts and I expect rapid corrections in them.
Khalid, I think it would be helpful if you clarify your Friday's post in a new post rather than comments.
Thanx! Always interesting to check you out.
-- desertwind
I'm glad u and ur family are safe
There simply can't be any justification for killing innocent people even if what you claim is correct and there was some meeting taking place. Also you mention rich civilians but what about the people working in the hotels just trying to earn a living? And why bomb a wedding? Why would an all powerfull god require you to kill innocent fellow believers and then admit you to heaven? The dead people are the lucky ones its the ones that get left behind that really suffer. The couple that had just got married lost both their fathers and 15 other members of their family. What was meant to be one the happiest days of their life has been turned into the worst.
"Yes, surely the Jordanian wedding party was a cover for Israeli and American mischief."
Americans bombed a wedding party in Afghanistan and Iraq and called them terrorists.
something is obviously fishy...
Up jumps the American fish with their nine rows of teeth..and Up jumps the Jewish lobsters with their heavy claws..
All your lands, oil, thoughts, and reality belongs to us!
Mahmood Azhar
Saying, 'You eat the dough boys, and I'll eat the beef!'
and it's...
Bites the main boom right off by the jaws!
and it's...
Abdul-Mu'izz
[Janice] Jeffrey is banned? Woohoo :-)
OH NO! What will we do without the sage comments of our Rat-in-Chief Jeffrey? For shame, Khalid, think of Jeffrey hunched over his keyboard, sweaty in anticipation for you to post, cheetos in one hand and a handy list of excrement-related adjectives in the other? You have deprived him of the reason he gets up in the morning. You truly ARE an Evil Dictator. :)
[khalid] “… his sexual interests, which you seem to focus on for some reason. why is that jeffery?”
Gee, I WONDER why. I also wonder what “homo rape” fantasies Jeffrey has written on his home computer – after all, he’s FAMOUS for his creative writing on the subject. Hm. One second thoughts, I DON’T want to know. Best they remain untold, huh?
[yas] “The Kuffar have a habit of flaring up anything done by the Muslims. I've seen alot of it.”
It is true that Muslim atrocities get a LOT more coverage than those committed by anybody else. It’s part of the American / Bush propaganda machine, where the big US media corporations, working in concert with the US Administration, set the tone using their huge influence, and then everybody else dances along to the tune. Keeping animosity high against Muslims is part of the propaganda campaign being waged in order to keep people scared and supporting the war.
[yas] “That is why it is ok for american and british soldiers to kill as many civillians as they want.”
No it’s NOT OK. Millions of non-Muslims around the world condemn this. (But I know what you mean.) It’s high time that we Western consumers started hitting these bastards where it hurts the most – in their pockets. Boycott anglo products and buy local, I say. That’s what I do, even if it costs more. Screw them. When they revise their crap foreign policy, then I’ll drink Coke again. (Which I like, worse luck.)
Dunno if my earlier post got through, but congratulations on a rather good post, Khalid. I've responded to cmarii on his own site, btw.
To all Americans who think theirs is such a great country whose responsibility is to "save the world":
I am Russian, lived 9 years in California, and now gratefully live and study in Canada, where I have acquired my second citizenship. When I tell my Californian friends that I got Canadian citizenship but not American, they don't understand how to react. When I tell them I choose to study at the University of Toronto (best in Canada, among the best in the world), their reaction is as if I were to tell them I'll go study in the howling winds of Antarctica. And this is educated people (teachers) who tell me that I deserve 'better' than 'some' Canadian University.
Of course if a nation is so ignorant about their next door neighbour, their largest trading partner who supplies them with water, metals, oil, lumber, you-name-it, how can one expect them to know anything about the rest of the world? They describe my first country (Russia) as some impoverished, violent, cold nasty 'undemocratic' corner of hell. You know, when I go there, I don't feel that at all. I see people living normal lives, just like the rest of Europe, just like N.America, just like the rest of the world. Naturally, I no longer trust American portrayal of the "third world".
Americans are so deeply immersed in their utter arrogance that they believe the rest of the world is a suffering wasteland full of savages begging for the great Christian knight on his white horse to liberate them from their sorrows and teach them the right way to live. Americans not only stubbornly and blindly believe their way of life is The Right Way, they FORCE it upon the rest of us. Your US government preaches "freedom and democracy", while imposing a ban on our import Eastern European sausages because their fat content is too high. You wanna know something...I know what's good for me and what isn't, and personally I'd prefer people to let me have my way, as long as I don't harm anyone else. That is how we feel beyond your borders. We don't want your enlightenment, we're quite happy to solve our problems ourselves.
Wonder why Americans hate Switzerland so much? Jealousy. Switzerland's government is the most democratic in the world, Switzerland has the best health care, best public transit, most obedience in the law of any country in the world. Yet do they come to "liberate" us? No, they're neutral. They never fight. That's why they're the wealthiest country, the envy of the modern world. They don't fight. They work. They earn their living standards. Therefore theirs will last forever. America is an empire, they steal their wealth, they constantly nose into other countries to take control of them. Saw what happened to the British Empire? The Romans? Golden Horde? Assyria? Join the club of the Empires. You're next to go.
Lastly, the American view that Arabs are a bunch of turban-wearing suicide bombers makes me sick. Coming from a city (Toronto) that is 47% first generation immigrants, I see multitudes of Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Nigerians, etc living in peace among Canadians. Sure there's racism, you can't avoid that. But there's no hate, no conflict, no bombings, no riots, nothing. Why? Maybe it's not the Arabs, blacks, Indians, Russians or Asians that matter...maybe it's the attidude of the 'host' population. In America they told me I'm American. In Canada they tell me I'm myself. I can proudly be a Russian and a Canadian simultaneously, and no one tells me that's 'unpatriotic'. The people here welcome us. They don't have the stereotypes of 'Terrorist Muslims' engraved in their heads because they SEE the minorities every day. So if the Arabs here don't always wear a belt of explosives, perhaps the Arabs back home don't either. Americans are too damn closed minded to think like that, they're too damn full of ideals and arrogance, a belief that they are the supreme race on a mission to liberate the suffering savages of the overseas worlds. They are so blinded by that shit that they no longer see us as people. Well, you wanna know something? The world respects your northern "igloo-dwelling eskimo savage" neighbour much more than yourself, perhaps just because we're not so full of ourselves. Please stop teaching others how to live. We know how. Most of us have existed a couple thousand years longer, at least. We got experience.
Get your fucking asses out of Iraq and let them live in THEIR country as THEY want to. You are NOT wanted. Thank you.
America...the most arrogant nation on earth...
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