Tell Me a Secret: What is that supposed to mean?

Monday, August 21, 2006

What is that supposed to mean?

Am I the only dude around that is frustrated because he can't understand what the hell does
" alternateves other than democracy " mean?

37 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Khalid,

It could mean a new dictatorship although shrub (a small bush) will find a new name for it. Perhaps they plan on sending another clueless viceroy such as Bremer on over.

It's hard to tell. Apparently even bush is getting the idea that the u.s. invasion and continued occupation has been a disaster.

The tide in the U.S. is finally showing signs of turning. Senator Lieberman (a big war supporter, altho a Democrat) lost the Democratic primary to an anti-war candidate.

People are finally waking up.

8/21/2006 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger Mimi said...

Khalid,

Please don't get upset over any report quoting an "unnamed military expert". I don't pay any attention to, nor do I believe anyone who hides behind anonymity. Besides, so-called experts are usually wrong. The democratic process can be tumultuous at times, but it is never boring. Most importantly, ballots decide the outcome, not bullets.

8/22/2006 12:31:00 AM  
Blogger madtom said...

Plan B

This may be what they are talking about.

8/22/2006 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous giovanni.dicristofano@tin.it said...

It means thae Usa need a new president . strudel

8/22/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger Bruno said...

It means that all the talk of "democracy" was bogus all along.

It means we were right all along.

It means the US never had any intention of allowing an independent democracy in Iraq.

What a surprise.

8/22/2006 09:15:00 AM  
Blogger Don Thieme said...

I believe that means a representative government in which the representatives are chosen based upon how many negative things they can say about their opponents in television advertisements financed by multinational corporations.

8/22/2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger EdoRiver said...

Ok, my interpretation
"alternatives" = plan B (which the more it is looked at, probably is better than plan A, because Plan A could mean greater unpredictability)
"other than democracy" well this is for US domestic understanding. Americans always assume that US version is the only version of "freedom" ---You have toremember that this word "freedom" or versions of this word, was used 16 times in the US president's major address to the US in Jan 2006. So of course there are other versions of government than (US) democracy, but it wasn't the preferred idea to wave at Americans.
So what other versions are there? well, look at the past. America once supported Saddam Husein in the 1980's under Reagan. Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Reagan all supported various insurgencies or horrible dictators in Latin America and South America. The only constant in US foreign policy was opposition to Castro in Cuba. So we should get some kind of award for that huh? ;-) And we blamed Castro for the evils of South and Central America too.

Basically it means someone perhaps like Mubarak in Egypt, some oneparty state system which is stable, and can appreciate the American currency.

8/22/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Blogger dancewater said...

it means they have to try a different route to installing the puppet government that will allow the big energy companies to run Iraq....

all in all, it is not good news for Iraq, but then bush & company never cared one whit about Iraq or Iraqis

8/22/2006 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous SKiZM said...

Oh what a shock. The USA invading and occupying foreign countries, just like we have done constantly for the past 150 years or so. Am I the only american who still reads books? So we attack everyone and fake injuries so we can attack more ppl AND THEN we act surprised to have repurcussions. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. Much easier than having a conscience...
Have a fun train ride to Denver, stupid.

8/23/2006 08:03:00 PM  
Blogger madtom said...

here is another plan B.01.00

It has less of an evil connotation to is than the other plan B's I have see floating around out there

8/24/2006 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous dusty said...

http://www.last.fm/user/dustycc/

8/25/2006 04:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12 Passengers Arrested After Flight to India Returns to Amsterdam

keep me watching this

8/25/2006 08:52:00 PM  
Blogger khalid jarrar said...

I am in vacation, will be back during this weekend:)
me*

8/31/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger Bruce Larson*Moore said...

" alternatives other than democracy "

it simply means, they failed and are unwilling, unable, and unapologetic for covering an agenda of planned failure with the deception of fear and terror.

“Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind,” and Love* is the greatest power at the disposal of All*Ways, combine, join, and utilize both, and you will have the infinite, essence of true reality at your disposal.

Nonviolent*Love

Truth - All*Ways leads to Peace

Peace - All*Ways leads to Truth

BL*M
The Last*War

Hymn of the Martyr

8/31/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger Sarah said...

It could mean nothing or everything, after all it's all a matter of perception. For example, Who allowed anyone to decide what's best for another, let alone allowed the US to dictate and decide what was best for the rest of the world?! Last time I checked there were a few other continenets on planet earth.

We are each born into this world as an iternal being of light and love and we sure work hard to put out our light, kill our sould by selling our concious and then creating a recior for disaster by spreading the message of hate, intolerance, narrow mindedness, fear & anger. All of those are the ingredients to what I call a recipr for disaster.

The answer to all this and to all our problems is faith, tolerance, love & forgiveness which can only be brought about through spirituality. By moving closer towards Allah or God or whatever other descriptive you would like to use for the Creator you get closer to Love and Light. Anything else is just a walk in the shadows.
I have embarked on a personal journey of discovery and I share my thoughts on my blog, Light-Steps which I invite you to look at and comment on (http:/light-stepd.blogspot.com)

A poem I once read says it best, and I would like to share it with you...
For everything there is a season,
And a time for every matter under heaven.
A time to be born, and a time to die;
A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace.
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

It is now the time for light, love and peace. May Allah bless this universe and all those within it who seek the truth.

Sarah

9/01/2006 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger madtom said...

Not in Syria again I hope. And if you are there again buddy, resist, I know you have it in you, resist the temptations.

9/01/2006 02:37:00 AM  
Blogger Claude Dorsel said...

i Posted a common friend here - please help publicise this call for help

b There is a necessary fight against fascism as represented by Rummy and other Bushites. Unfortunately the left is divided and ineffective as usual. However, I recently got an email from the World Can't Wait and they are hoping to organize a super political action on October 5th. They are also asking for donations. Hopefully we can really do something to change history. They can be found at the

http://www.worldcantwait.org

9/01/2006 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger Reynaud said...

It means that the Iraqi people are so far in over their heads in terms of implementing anything that doesn't look like either tyranny or anarchy that we might as well give up. It means that as long as the Arab world picks and chooses it's own revisionist view of blaming everything from the weather to the weatherman on the USA there's not much point in pursuing any attempt to bootstrap their country into anything vaguely resembling the modern political west. Sorry, I thought everyone knew that.

9/01/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noticed your bros (Raed) incident on the news last night. The issue was concerning his attempt at boarding a commuter aircraft in a t-shirt with Arabic writing.

Of course, the point he was trying to make was drowned out by the larger point being made by the other passengers... A very real feeling of discomfort and apprehension with his presence.

9/01/2006 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..the previous comment was from Elie

9/01/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger Roger The Okcitykid said...

Well actually I believe Iraq is already in an "alternateves other than democracy"

It is common for tidbits to be purposefully leaked and then there are those who truly feel guilty and want us to know the truth.

You got me on this one - I don't know.

9/01/2006 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Bassim said...

"Am I the only dude around that is frustrated because he can't understand what the hell does alternateves other than democracy mean?"

You're not alone, I'm the other dude in this respect.

Bassim
Occupied Baghdad

9/02/2006 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger khalid jarrar said...

I am back! :))
preparing a post about my trip:)
me*

9/02/2006 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger Mimi said...

Hi Khalid,

I assumed you had finished your exams by now. So, you have been traveling? Great!

I just posted on our Boggling the Mind blog a post, "Militias Must Be Disarmed." After everything that happened this past month in Gaza, Lebanon, and Israel, I felt like ranting. So I did. Please read it when you get a chance and give me some feedback. Okay?

Mimi in Missouri

9/03/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To JET BlUE, concerning Raed Jarrar

No complaint. I wanted to commend your personnel for their sensitivity towards passenger concerns. There was an Arab/Iraqi man boarding a plane with Arabic script on his t-shirt. Other passengers felt uncomfortable with his presence. Fortunately, your personnel, responding to passenger queries nicely asked him to change his shirt. Although, this man complained about individual rights, your personnel stuck to thier decision to have him change.

As an American who does allot of flying, domestically and internationally... Thank you

Along with the passengers of that flight, you have also made me feel more comfortable about flying.

Thank you again.. and please continue the good work.

9/03/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger SKiZM said...

God forbid a black man enter an airplane with a T-shirt with Graffiti writing on it. I would pee all over myself if an Asian man entered an airplane while wearing a T-shirt with Chinese writing on it. 0o

9/03/2006 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would bet that before 9/11 Raed could have made his point wearing a daiper with arabic script.

However, at this stage, he should be comdemning the reason why people feel uncomfortable with him.

If Asian and Black men begin blowing up children, as Arab men/women are doing, you can feel free to pee yourself.


Elie

9/04/2006 08:42:00 AM  
Blogger SKiZM said...

ah, if only arabic men had attacked us on 9/11...or 7/7, or even 3/11...

9/06/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger SKiZM said...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/09/1094530741977.html?from=storylhs
Asian bombers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
Black bombers

http://www.ussliberty.org/why.htm
Israel attacks US

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19916812-601,00.html
Israel attacks UN

9/06/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Your not alone. I don't know what it is supposed to mean either. And considering it is the States......who the hell knows!

Peace
Jennifer

9/08/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cannot understand this

9/11 TV Film Sparks Clinton Administration Outrage

9/08/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Rhiannon said...

Hey SKiZM,

I'm just breaking from a few of the many videos that you have given links to. AWESOME. I don't know where you get this great coverage but it is far better than what I have. THANK YOU!


BTW, I just finished watching DEATH IN GAZA. Damn shame we can't show these films in North American schools. DAMN SHAME.

Rhiannon

9/09/2006 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger doha said...

hey khaled.hala fek.thx 4 ur comments,ilove what u write:):)

9/10/2006 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell me what is happening here


Bush Battles to Get 'Tools Needed' to Interrogate, Try Suspected Terrorists

9/15/2006 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger Rhiannon said...

Palestinian children in Israeli prison
Najib Farag , PNN


(Bethlehem)
Wednesday, 13 September 2006

The Palestinian Prisoner Society, legal and childhood rights institutions, and the international and local Red Cross, are pushing for the immediate release of Palestinian minors from Israeli prisons.

Children in Telmond Prison are in dire psychological and physical straights as reported by the Prisoner Society Wednesday. Israeli forces arrested 11 year old Mohammad Abdullah Mousa Othman and 13 year old Rafiq Mohammad Al Eisha nearly three weeks ago.

The western Ramallah’s Beit Ur At Tahta Village boys have been subject to severe beatings at the hands of Israeli soldiers. Members of the intelligence in charge of interrogating the children have beaten and threatened both and forced them to sign statements.

Prisoner Society lawyer Adal Khalaila met with the boys on 11 September and described their situation as "tragic."

Khalaila said, "The minors have been thrown in with their elders and have no knowledge of the rules of law, and are clearly too young to adapt to prison life."

He described Othman as a "tall, skinny boy in prison contrary to all norms of international law. It is also contrary to Israeli law which does not allow arresting Palestinians under 12 years old."

The lawyer reported that Israeli soldiers arrested the 11 year old from the streets of his village on 25 August under the pretext that he had thrown stones at Israeli forces.

The boy was taken to a mountain high above the town and held there for seven to eight hours. He was handcuffed and blindfolded the entire time. One of the Israeli soldiers put his cigarette out in the boy’s hand. Othman was then taken to a military installation for investigation in the Israeli settlement of Givat Ze’ev west of Ramallah in the West Bank. He was interrogated into the morning hours of the second day.

Khalaila stated that due to the boy’s young age and lack of maturity or knowledge of how to handle the torturous investigations that most Palestinian males undergo at some point in their lives, he signed the investigators’ report without knowing the content. "He was under threat and intimidation, beatings and insults."

None of the child’s family members have been allowed to visit him and it remains unknown when or if he will be released. The Israeli military court has held three hearings for the boy since his arrest.

The second minor that the Palestinian Prisoner Society focused on in today’s report is 13 year old Rafiq Mohammad Al Aisha. Israeli soldiers took him in the same manner as the 11 year old: from the streets of Beit Ur At Tahta Village, west of Ramallah, accusing him of throwing stones at Israeli forces.

Khalaila sat with Al Aisha as he reported what has happened to him. Israeli soldiers and interrogators have repeatedly punched the 13 year old in the face and kicked him in the legs and backside. The boy said that he was not throwing stones, denying the charge against him. He was forced under threat to sign a statement of unknown content.

The Prisoner Society attorney reported that both children are experiencing difficulty speaking and expressing themselves, and in understanding what is being said to them. Khalaila concluded reporting the sworn statements by saying that the boys are not pronouncing words clearly.

The Israeli authorities have arrested over 5,000 Palestinian minors since the beginning of the Al Aqsa Intifada in September 2000. Still in Israeli prisons are 350 Palestinians aged 11 through 17 years.

9/17/2006 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Enders, author of Baghdad Bulletin, is a New York based freelance journalist who has lived in Iraq for over 18 months in the last 4 years. On his latest trip, he reports on the growing refugee problem in Iraq and its effects on the rest of the region. To read more from David Enders, go to http://pulitzercenter.typepad.co...th_of_a_nation/
or visit the pulitzer center webiste at http://www.pulitzercenter.org/

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